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Deflate-gate

Postby Deadskins » Wed Jan 21, 2015 9:28 am

The NFL has that 11 of the Patriots' 12 balls were under-inflated by 2 psi. Is this a big deal?

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Re: Deflate-gate

Postby tribeofjudah » Wed Jan 21, 2015 4:56 pm

No really a big deal, but hey, that's Bill BiliCHEAT for you......
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Re: Deflate-gate

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Re: Deflate-gate

Postby SkinsJock » Wed Jan 21, 2015 5:55 pm

It seems these QBs all like different pressure (PSI) in the balls they use in the game ... Brady likes a 'softer' ball and Rodgers tries to get more PSI than is 'allowed' ...

so ... it is not a big deal although I'm sure there will be fines handed out ...
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Re: Deflate-gate

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Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance
Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)

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Re: Deflate-gate

Postby SkinsJock » Thu Jan 22, 2015 10:16 am

btw - I see that I've got an asterisk again - gotta love it :lol:
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Re: Deflate-gate

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Re: Deflate-gate

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Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance
Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)

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Re: Deflate-gate

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Re: Deflate-gate

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Re: Deflate-gate

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Re: Deflate-gate

Postby masterkwon » Fri Jan 23, 2015 2:12 pm

If this were Jacksonville, Tampa Bay or Washington it would be a total non-issue. The Patriots are the Yankees of football.

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Re: Deflate-gate

Postby fabe » Fri Jan 23, 2015 2:15 pm

It's not like the deflated balls were the reason the Pats won. It was a mixture of Blount running like a freight train, and the solid Pats defense that won the game. So, even if the balls were properly inflated, the results would've been the same. This is a ridiculous thing to talk about.

What advantage does a deflated ball give you, anyways? Sure, it's easier to hold on to (as if the Colts had any defensive pressure/good tackles against Blount), but it's a lot harder to throw. The media is just making a mountain out of a molehill, as always. :roll:

Also, watch this video... It's pretty funny.

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2015/1/21/7 ... eflategate

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Re: Deflate-gate

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Re: Deflate-gate

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Re: Deflate-gate

Postby welch » Fri Jan 23, 2015 9:02 pm

It is a big deal. An under-inflated ball is easier to throw when wet. The officials checked the footballs an hour or two before the game. Someone had to deflate them. Yes, Brady knew. As Mark Brunell put it: a QB makes his living by handling a football. Nobody messes with game-balls unless the QB knows it.

Belichik has been caught cheating before. How many times has he cheated but not been caught? He and Brady ought to be suspended for a season, but that won't happen. I will watch a Superbowl I would have ignored, and will cheer for a team other than the Cheaters from New England.

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Re: Deflate-gate

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Re: Deflate-gate

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Re: Deflate-gate

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Re: Deflate-gate

Postby tribeofjudah » Mon Jan 26, 2015 5:09 pm

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Re: Deflate-gate

Postby DarthMonk » Tue Jan 27, 2015 3:41 pm

Not trying to change any minds (probably couldn't anyway) but I lean towards blaming the NFL.

The effects of temp on pressure have been known for over a century. If the NFL thought the psi parameters were so important they would have been checking balls between quarters for decades. A ref on each sideline could do it in about 1 minute.

I think they had suspicions and took a chance with balls in the AFC title game. They actually take a chance in EVERY cold-weather game if they are not doing this.

So I say the NFL really doesn't see the psi parameters as being very important (hence the ball-boy observation: "I recall them having a pressure gauge in the locker room, but most often they just squeezed the balls, turned them over in their hands a few times each, and inspected the laces.") and therefore, this whole situation is essentially a farce.

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Re: Deflate-gate

Postby DEHog » Tue Jan 27, 2015 4:33 pm

^Maybe…But the temp was 51 at game time and there have been many a cold game over the course of history in the NFL, I would believe it more if it was cold?? But I do share you thought of blaming the NFL because they allowed it to go on this long and has turned a blind eye to this particular issue. No one is talking about the story that Baltimore was the team that tipped off others that the Patriots were doing this. I think just like spygate many teams were doing it and it was just accepted. Remember Mangini blew the whistle on the Pats in spygate, it took him a while to get back into league, because as I said I believe many teams were doing it and it was accepted until the Pats ticked off Mangini and he blew the whistle. Fast forward to this year’s playoffs and the Pats run a few (legal) trick plays that Harbaugh and the Ravens thought were illegal?? I think Harbaugh decided to blow the whistle, but did it in a different way as to not get the stigma attached to him like Mangini did. Being the Pats, Harbaugh knew the frenzy that would ensue. I’m not buying the weather/temp excuse in this case….Every QB that has been ask if they could feel the different in a ball said they could! Brady lost me when he said he loves his footballs at 12.5 PSI and proceeded to say he couldn’t tell the difference when they were deflated!!
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Re: Deflate-gate

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Re: Deflate-gate

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Re: Deflate-gate

Postby welch » Wed Jan 28, 2015 11:45 pm

I suspect that the Patriots knew they were reducing the air pressure in the footballs. A QB knows how a football should feel. Using an under-inflated football gave Brady an edge.

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Re: Deflate-gate

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Re: Deflate-gate

Postby SkinsJock » Fri Jan 30, 2015 12:08 pm

:shock: is anyone surprised that the NFL is now 'implying' that the refs may not have 'properly' checked the PSI before the game ...
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Re: Deflate-gate

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Re: Deflate-gate

Postby DEHog » Fri Jan 30, 2015 1:45 pm

^^
Huh??? I blame the media because the NFL has yet to comment...no one from the NFL has said or confrimed the footballs were deflated.
Man I couldn't follow a game that I felt was fixed, pre-determined or corrupt like you do.
BTW don't you think it would be in the NFL's best interest to see the Cowboys win more because of the way they move the needle? Or is it all legit when the Cowboys win??
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Re: Deflate-gate

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Re: Deflate-gate

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Re: Deflate-gate

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Re: Deflate-gate

Postby SkinsJock » Sat Jan 31, 2015 2:37 pm

it's easy for me ... if the result favors the pukes I think the other team lost the game ... if the pukes lose then it's even better

the giants are even worse though
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Re: Deflate-gate

Postby Deadskins » Thu May 07, 2015 10:55 am

The is out, and it looks like Tom Brady is guilty. I'm guessing a fine will be the only punishment, but there really should be a suspension. Time to show some balls, Goodell.

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Re: Deflate-gate

Postby Deadskins » Thu May 07, 2015 11:03 am

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Video evidence from pregame of AFC Championship shows McNally detouring to bathroom with two bags of game balls after taking them from officials' dressing room. He remained in bathroom for 1 minute, 40 seconds and then took both bags to field.

McNally took two bags of game balls from Officials Locker Room before start of AFC Championship without receiving permission of referee Walt Anderson. Anderson says that had never happened before in his career.

McNally was interviewed by NFL Security after AFC Championship Game. During that interview he never mentioned taking balls into bathroom. Initially, he stated he walked directly to field.

McNally claimed he stopped in the restroom and used a urinal. Indicated he has used that bathroom near the field entrance while in possession of the game balls "many times." That bathroom has no urinal.

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Re: Deflate-gate

Postby SkinsJock » Fri May 08, 2015 3:52 pm

if he's a cheat, kick him out of the game - if you can't prove that he's a cheat then you can't do much about it ..
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Re: Deflate-gate

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Re: Deflate-gate

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Re: Deflate-gate

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Re: Deflate-gate

Postby Countertrey » Sun May 10, 2015 10:57 am

Much ado about nothing...

Simple fact is, the Patriots are an awesome program... and it pisses everyone else off...
pisses me off, too... but the fact is, this is all NOTHING but spew.
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Re: Deflate-gate

Postby emoses14 » Mon May 11, 2015 5:59 pm

4 games for Brady, a 2016 1st rounder and 2017 4th rounder. Sure seems like someone thought this was more than just a bunch of hot air.

I'll show myself out.

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Re: Deflate-gate

Postby Countertrey » Mon May 11, 2015 6:26 pm

Over-reaction is the theme of the day.
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Re: Deflate-gate

Postby welch » Mon May 11, 2015 9:52 pm

Don Shula just called the coach "Bill Bela-cheat".

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Re: Deflate-gate

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Re: Deflate-gate

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"That's a clown question, bro"
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Re: Deflate-gate

Postby emoses14 » Tue May 12, 2015 11:30 am

Joe Jackson Gibbs. End of list.

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Re: Deflate-gate

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"That's a clown question, bro"
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Re: Deflate-gate

Postby SkinsJock » Wed May 13, 2015 11:19 am

+1 - they broke the mold ... JJG just has so much integrity ...
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Re: Deflate-gate

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Re: Deflate-gate

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Re: Deflate-gate

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Re: Deflate-gate

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[quote="Deadskins
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Re: Deflate-gate

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Re: Deflate-gate

Postby DEHog » Mon May 18, 2015 9:50 am

I was at least willing to listen to the Pats arguments, right up until the whole ”deflate diet” argument. I was even willing to try the “deflate diet” until I heard about its bad side effect…apparently it makes your nose grow!
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Re: Deflate-gate

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Re: Deflate-gate

Postby cowboykillerzRGiii » Tue May 19, 2015 5:15 am

Am I the only one wondering how the C, wrs, te, and rbs aren't under fire too?

If Brady "had to know" why then isn't the other player (at least) who touches the ball every down being told the same?
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Re: Deflate-gate

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Re: Deflate-gate

Postby SkinsJock » Tue May 19, 2015 11:56 am

^^ and he for sure would not keep his job for very long :lol:
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Re: Deflate-gate

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Re: Deflate-gate

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Re: Deflate-gate

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Re: Deflate-gate

Postby yupchagee » Wed May 20, 2015 2:58 pm

I seem to remember that it was an ILB who made the pick, the 1st of his pro career. As little experience as he has handling the ball, I wouldn't expect him to notice.
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Re: Deflate-gate

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Re: Deflate-gate

Postby DarthMonk » Thu Jun 25, 2015 9:57 pm

The more I think about this issue the more I think what a complete joke it is.


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Re: Deflate-gate

Postby yupchagee » Fri Jun 26, 2015 12:02 pm

I think they should settle by Roger & Brady fighting a duel.

With hand grenades.

At 3 feet.
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